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rmet0815
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:12 pm    Post subject: no "zoom in" at graphs Reply with quote

Is there a possibility to force a drawing from the base value until the max? What I mean is, that if I have a graph which can contain values from 0 to 1000 but only contains values between 800 and 1000, only this range (800 to 1000) is displayed. But I would like to have the range 0 to 1000 be drawn (so not "zooming" in).

Hope this makes sense. Sometimes I wish my English would be better :)

Cheerio
/rudy
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balleman
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now the only way to do this is with the "advanced" graph view in NetMRG. You can specify custom mins and maxes for the graph's display there.

I believe there is an RRDTOOL feature for the type of scaling you want, which we will try to include in future releases. I'll start a bug for this issue so that we can track its progress. (bug#177)
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rmet0815
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can I find this advanced? Do you mean the one when "Edit Graph" then click on the advanced in the bottom (graphs.php?showadvanced=true&...)? Because there I can only change the base value (1000 or 1024 according to the RRDTOOL doku, make this a dropdown menu?), hide legend and use logarithmic scaling.

I know that I can define min and max values in the monitors, but are the used for graphing? I did set them up though with min 0 and max 100 and it doesnt seem to have an impact (or I am doing something wrong again :) )

Also, while I am at it... Is there a possibility to create a graph which displays a so called "rolling average". This is an average calculated over the last n minutes/hours of the values, like the uptime is doing it for example. I looked it up in the RRDtools but could not find it there, though i think it just does not exist but maybe I just missed it :)

Sorry to be such a pain...
/rudy
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silfreed
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Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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Location: Shippensburg, PA, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmet0815 wrote:
Where can I find this advanced? Do you mean the one when "Edit Graph" then click on the advanced in the bottom (graphs.php?showadvanced=true&...)? Because there I can only change the base value (1000 or 1024 according to the RRDTOOL doku, make this a dropdown menu?), hide legend and use logarithmic scaling.


Device tree -> expand your group -> click on your device's graphs (orange graph icon) -> click on the graph you would like to see more detail about.
You will see some links below it for 'advanced' and 'history'.

rmet0815 wrote:
I know that I can define min and max values in the monitors, but are the used for graphing? I did set them up though with min 0 and max 100 and it doesnt seem to have an impact (or I am doing something wrong again :) )


Actually, they don't have any impact on graphing, only gathering the data. If the value gathered exceeds the max/min you've defined, it's ignored (well, not quite). This is commonly useful for things like interfaces or CPU usage. For our single processor boxes, we set a max of 105, because if the box reboots, the counter rolls over and we get a really ugly spike :(

rmet0815 wrote:
Also, while I am at it... Is there a possibility to create a graph which displays a so called "rolling average". This is an average calculated over the last n minutes/hours of the values, like the uptime is doing it for example. I looked it up in the RRDtools but could not find it there, though i think it just does not exist but maybe I just missed it :)


Well, the graphs do show the average in the legend, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a way to graph it. That would require adding another monitor that read the RRD file for the monitor you want a rolling average on, and logging that point. Not pretty (but also something that's very helpful).

rmet0815 wrote:
Sorry to be such a pain...


Not at all! I'm very surprised no one has asked these types of questions before.

-Doug
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rmet0815
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silfreed wrote:
rmet0815 wrote:
I know that I can define min and max values in the monitors, but are the used for graphing? I did set them up though with min 0 and max 100 and it doesnt seem to have an impact (or I am doing something wrong again :) )


Actually, they don't have any impact on graphing, only gathering the data. If the value gathered exceeds the max/min you've defined, it's ignored (well, not quite). This is commonly useful for things like interfaces or CPU usage. For our single processor boxes, we set a max of 105, because if the box reboots, the counter rolls over and we get a really ugly spike :(


Wow great! Now I can finally get rid of this nasty eth0 spike when I push my whole backup over to another machine!

/rudy
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rmet0815
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing I forgot to mention. You said it is ignored, not not really :) I am curios how it is handled? Do you just take the maximim defined value whenever the actual value is bigger? Or is it something much more complicated? :)

Thanx again for all your help!
/rudy
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balleman
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We pass the mins and maxes to RRDTOOL. RRDTOOL will insert "Unknown" values into the RRD when the input values are not within range. This will result in a gaps in the graph if this occurs frequently.
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